Accuracy and Distance

[thereiff]

Greetings,
I am in search of the farthest ACCURATE shooting gun...Any recommendations? PS do NOT buy the Tippmann flat barrel unless you want to give up accuracy!!!! (Just my humble opinion)

Thanks,

Reiffer Madness

[jojo750]

autcockers are known for their accuracy.
but to find the farthest shooting gun, you will find that almost all markers will fire the same distance (about the same) when shooting 285-300fps. assuming 45-50* trajectory. and no wind factored in.
im sure others will give their opinion (deep,skeeter,geoff) and i hope you can find what you are looking for.
good luck.

[thereiff]

Thanks!

[Geoff Call]

285 fps is 285 fps is 285 fps. A twinkle bun, is a twinkle bun, is a twinkle bun. If you chronograph any marker with any barrel at 285 feet per second the ball will generally go the same distance. Your best bet is to get a good barrel (Smart Parts All American, DYE Ultralite, Dye Boomstick) and a good paint to match the barrel. Your accuracy at a distance will increase.

You could always try to get into the firefight a little more:)

Good Luck,

Geoff Call

[jojo750]

oh yeah, i forgot to mention PAINT TO BARREL match. that is very important when it comes to accuracy. man, good call geoff.

[DeepFreeze]

Geoff is correct. As long as you get a good quality barrel with good machining you won't see much difference. I personally prefer the old Dye Boomsticks, but as far as distance you won't see any difference between a boomstick and a stock barrel. The grouping will be tighter with a boomstick than a stock Tippman barrel due to better machining.
My recommendations would be:

Any Dye barrel, any Smart Parts barrel (although I am leaning away from the freak system), any BOA barrel, the stiffi, and numerous others I can't recall right now.

[dakkon]

i've got a dynasty with a hammerhead barrel, very accurate...other than that, phantom with all star paint, thats about as accurate as you will ever get...

[guitarmaster1195]

slingshots shoot farther than any paintball gun, even though they shoot at around 125 fps

[DeepFreeze]

It is awesome to know that a slingshot is capable of defying the laws of physics....Maybe if I go buy a Vespa I can win the Daytona 500.....

[DM5GUNNA]

ACTUALLY my friend has got his slingshot up to 180 summin i think but the paint breaks and makes it reallly messy lol

[Koz]

Hey, there is nothing wrong with defying the laws of physics, and there is especially nothing wrong with Vespa's winning the Daytona 500...I did that yesterday...

Please refer to Jami's signature, I was laughing a lot at that comment, and hence I was made happy...

[guitarmaster1195]

how is a slingshot shooting a paintball farther than a marker breaking the laws of physics??? fps is the speed the ball is leaving the gun, not the distance the ball is shooting- just like mph in a car, its the speed the car is moving, not the distance it is moving... take different markers for example, different gun builds and barrels allow longer range at the same ball speed... it is the way the paintball is shot--- in a marker, the ball is propelled out of the gun by way of gas, hence the name "pneumatics"; with the slingshot, the ball is being launched by the movement an elastic band, which has nothing to do with gas. this is in now way defying the laws of physics- fps is a measure of velocity (displacement/time), not just distance. the slingshot shoots farther, but in more time, therefore creating a lower velocity. also, the ball only reaches the actual recorded velocity as soon as it leaves the barrel- wind resistance, a form of friction, slows down the ball to slower speeds. the wind resistance is the same for both slingshot and marker, but the initial velocity is not, while the final velocity is. overall, it is easily possible for the slingshot to shoot farther at a lower speed, say maybe travelling 400 feet in 10 seconds while the marker shoots maybe 300 feet in 5. though the paintball is moving faster, that has nothing to do with distance.

[guitarmaster1195]

sorry for the long post guys i went overboard

[DeepFreeze]

I have to head off to class, but if Skeeter hasn't jumped on this one by the time I return tonight I will explain the laws of velocity and intertia to you this evening when I get home. That is if I don't fall asleep as soon as I sit down. These maps are crazy!!!!

[guitarmaster1195]

i know what they are i am taking physics and chemistry. basically, speed is not necessarily distance.

[alldugan]

Nerds!

[Koz]

Anything has an acceleration of -9.8 m/s squared down due to gravity, which means that no matter if you shoot straight forward it will hit the ground at the same time as if you would drop it, if you shoot and release both balls at the same time. Now if you shot a paintball straight at 285 fps (87 meters ps) from 2 meters off the ground the ball only has only .63887 seconds to travel, so that means it will go about 182 feet.

Now you say a slingshot will shoot a paintball about 125 fps (38.1 meters ps), if fired flat from 2 meters that paintball is only going to go about 80 feet. Once you start firing at an angle that is where you get a chance of going farther, and I can do that too if you like.

And, whatever you said about pnuematics and gas...it doesn't matter how the paintball goes 285 fps, it's going 285 fps and how it is fired isn't going to change much if anything. Same for your slingshot...for your slingshot to shoot farther in more time you would have to aim up to give it more airtime to go farther. There is no way is this world that your shlingshot is going to make a paintball go farther than a paintball gun...

Also, how does you taking Chemistry pertain to this...

Have a nice day...

[SCBrian]

And, whatever you said about pnuematics and gas...it doesn't matter how the paintball goes 285 fps, it's going 285 fps and how it is fired isn't going to change much if anything.


Gas pressure drops to atmospheric pressure as soon as the paintball leaves the barrel thus providing no added force.
So, unless the basic laws of physics have changed since I've been in school,(And I think I still have my stone tablets around here somewhere) What Geoff said still applies... "285 is 285 is 285". If a paintball leaves my marker at 285 and your slingshot at 285, and both devices are aimed level they will hit the ground at about the same spot, UNLESS you have a way of creating lift with the slingshot (Ie. Holding sideways at an angle) or a flatline barrel, which will carry the paintball further.

This is about as pointless as the closed vs open bolt debate.

[Jimbo5813]

wow i dont know wat ur talkin about

[DM5GUNNA]

YEH wat they said.

[Koz]

And since you say slingshots won't fire 285 fps...which they won't, it has no chance at going as far...

[PBfan]

Louis you're an idiot and u dont take chemistry, SO SHUT UP. Your making a disgrace of Magnet students.

[guitarmaster1195]

ummmm jordan ur wrong dude w/e lets go 1 v 1 speedball saturday

[PBfan]

Right since speedball has so much to do with slingshots and u being stupid

[Jimbo5813]

LMAO
louis ill play u pump in speedball?

[Koz]

I'll play too....

[Jimbo5813]

ok Koz and knowing ur Sniper 2 and ur incredible ninja skill u would win