speedball

[TATLORTHETANK]

Not Sure How To Play Speedball. Only Scenerio I Know How To Play But Never Have. I Have Played Airsoft.

[DeceasedVitality]

You'll learn. Just come out there once they've gotten it all set up and I'm sure that some of the guys will work with you and show you the ropes. Lot more fast pace than woods ball/scenario ball. I only had the option for speedball when I started playing. You may get shot to hell, but it's those shots that teach you what you did wrong, and improve your game. Don't let them scare you away from it.

[himself68]

yea right guys at pbc will show u right after they laugh u off the speedball field

[DM5KILLA]

yea right guys at pbc will show u right after they laugh u off the speedball field

Thats not entirely true, Most PBC players would be happy to show you techniques and such if you just ask...(and dont be a jerk)

[orange ion dude]

^it is the truth

[orange ion dude]

oh yeah dude look around on youtube and all over the internet there is bound to be something that might help you out.

[Wubby]

oh yeah dude look around on youtube and all over the internet there is bound to be something that might help you out.

internet is not a place to learn to play speedball.

especially if you are new to it.

and 5 mins on youtube can justify what im saying.

[orange ion dude]

lol just throwing it out there dude

[simple_condolences]

Yeah. There aren't many things that recball at Paintball Charleston can teach you unfortunately. You can improve there but you need to learn on a speedball field.

The basics:

-play tight
-snapshooting
-shooting with both hands
(There are more but its late-ish and i'm getting offline. Someone else post them if you like.)

Playing tight: Much easier to do on a speed ball field using those rules. you'll learn quicker. Next time you play, try keeping your elbows and knees in, your hopper tilted towards your bunker. Basically, do anything to not allow the other team to have anything to shoot. In speedball, playing your bunker properly and keeping yourself a small target is crucial because a hit anywhere on your body and gear counts. Another bit that will help is learning how to shoot switch and becoming an effective snapshooter.

Snapshooting: In an nut shell, leaning out, shooting a shot, leaning back in. This is an art however and takes time to master or even get good at. This will be done on fields likethe castle or anything with hard cover and a straight edge(I don't suggest a tree). Give it a shot next time you play. The trick is keeping your barrel straight when you snap and not pushing too much with your shoulder so your barrel leans in and not too much with your forearm/wrists so your barrel points out.

Shooting with both hands: This is fairly straightforward. Instead of leaning out the left side of your bunker with your gun in the right hand, switch the gun to your left hand before snapping. Snapping left with your marker in the right hand makes you lean your entire body out. By switching your marker to the other hand, you can snap and lean out and expose as little of your body as possible. Try switching your hands. When you look out your bunker's left side, your left hand should be holding the grip of your marker and your right hand should be forward on your regulator/foregrip. This gets flip-flopped if you're a lefty learning to shoot right handed.

[Mikesac]

break shooting?

[orange ion dude]

break shooting?

well why dont you tell him about that, lol not trying to sound like a wise butt. Sorry if I miss spell stuff I am typing on my ipod so it is a little hard...

[Mikesac]

idk i dont play speedball but i know that is important cause if u dont ur bound to have alot of ur team oout with out hitting any of them...

And bunkering

Anyway look up speedball on youtube u get visual images of all these htings

[orange ion dude]

YAY youtube!!!!

[DeceasedVitality]

break shooting?

He'll probably be adding to it later if he has time. If he doesn't I will.

[DeceasedVitality]

idk i dont play speedball but i know that is important cause if u dont ur bound to have alot of ur team oout with out hitting any of them...

And bunkering

Anyway look up speedball on youtube u get visual images of all these htings

Bunkering is entirely straight forward. Run past them and shoot them from'close range'. If someone needs to be taught how to bunker then they don't belong on the field. An explanation is entirely acceptable and if they don't understand the explanation, show them what you're talking about but bunkering isn't complicated in the least.

[Mikesac]

yes plz add cause im not good at explaining things i dont play at or do

[simple_condolences]

Yeah. There aren't many things that recball at Paintball Charleston can teach you unfortunately. You can improve there but you need to learn on a speedball field.

The basics:

-play tight
-snapshooting
-shooting with both hands
-running and gunning
-breakshooting/laning
-bunkering

Playing tight: Much easier to do on a speed ball field using those rules. you'll learn quicker. Next time you play, try keeping your elbows and knees in, your hopper tilted towards your bunker. Basically, do anything to not allow the other team to have anything to shoot. In speedball, playing your bunker properly and keeping yourself a small target is crucial because a hit anywhere on your body and gear counts. Another bit that will help is learning how to shoot switch and becoming an effective snapshooter.

Snapshooting: In an nut shell, leaning out, shooting a shot, leaning back in. This is an art however and takes time to master or even get good at. This will be done on fields likethe castle or anything with hard cover and a straight edge(I don't suggest a tree). Give it a shot next time you play. The trick is keeping your barrel straight when you snap and not pushing too much with your shoulder so your barrel leans in and not too much with your forearm/wrists so your barrel points out.

Shooting with both hands: This is fairly straightforward. Instead of leaning out the left side of your bunker with your gun in the right hand, switch the gun to your left hand before snapping. Snapping left with your marker in the right hand makes you lean your entire body out. By switching your marker to the other hand, you can snap and lean out and expose as little of your body as possible. Try switching your hands. When you look out your bunker's left side, your left hand should be holding the grip of your marker and your right hand should be forward on your regulator/foregrip. This gets flip-flopped if you're a lefty learning to shoot right handed.

Running and shooting: Your upper body and your legs are considered two different parts for this. Your legs will move running you to your bunker while your top half will be shooting and rotating as you move farther away from your target(s).

HINT: When you run, you will have to lead your targets if you are running away from them or else your shots will fall short.

Breakshooting/Laning: These are both very basic concepts and are generally the same things. Breakshooting boils down to you turning off the break and shooting a lane of paint down field in between bunkers. When breakshooting, yuo will want to have identified your lane(s) before the start of the game. Off the break, you will turn and shoot a rope of paint down through the first gap, or lane, in the bunkers down field. If there are multiple lanes, you will want to shoot the one closest to the inside of the field first and then snap your marker to post up on the next lane. Once the player is in his/her bunker across field, post up on the outside of their bunker for about ten shots to see if you can catch them if/when they overslide their bunker. There are several combinations that break shooting falls into. You can delay or stay off the break and shoot a single lane for a split second before filling out to your primary bunker. You can stay home and keep dropping paint or you can run and gun trying to shoot out people running to your mirror bunker/tape line or you can try and shoot out the people who are breakshooting on the other team.
Laning is very similar to breakshooting. Your objective when laning is simply to dump paint and keep the other team from moving to a particular bunker. This is an excellent tactic for keeping the opposing players out of a key bunker such as the snake or Dorito tape lines.

Bunkering: Extremely straightforward. Get you gun up in your hands and run and gun shooting at the persons bunker you are trying to bunker. As you get to an open stretch, move inside of his bunker slightly so that he can't snap out to see you easily and as you come close take the step around the side of the bunker to shoot the player. Though you won't get pulled for it, its always nice to aim for something hard such as a podpack. No one likes having bloody welts on their backs and this tends to keep tension between teams down causing you in turn to be overshot/bonus balled less and hopefully have the same courtesy extended to you.

[orange ion dude]

yeah that does just about sum it up all the other stuff he will learn on the field

[Mikesac]

theres still wiping

[orange ion dude]

hmmmmm whipeing, basicly just don't do it and if you do you are in big trouble, and it is when you get shot and you whipe off the paint...

[bluemidget123]

theres still wiping

no there's not. wiping is cheating. not a part of speedball.

[DM5KILLA]

no there's not. wiping is cheating. not a part of speedball.

or paintball AT ALL!

[Mikesac]

they still practice it

[Imnotmexican]

cheating causes you to loose the game...or get big penalties...no one practices cheating...

[Mikesac]

well ive heard of teams practicing ways of wiping hits...
*Just heard*

[DeceasedVitality]

theres still wiping

We aren't going to teach him how to wipe. That's...stupid. We're teaching him stuff he needs to know. We ourselves don't condescend to wiping. If you wipe it's because you're getting shot. If you're getting shot, you're in need of improvement.

[DeceasedVitality]

well ive heard of teams practicing ways of wiping hits...
*Just heard*

It's true that some teams do. Most don't, but there's a select few that are frowned down upon because they actually promote and practice wiping. It does take some skill to be an effective wiper though.

[Mikesac]

kyle stahl

[Bermy]

Kyle Stahl got caught on camera, he can't be that good.

[himself68]

point is dnt learn from youtube go out and play... chances are your gonna suck at first but dont get discouraged... keep practicing and playing and you will hone the skills to be a decent player... the worst thing you probibly can do is make a "team" of bad people... playing with bad people around you will cause your game to decrease... play w/ some good people who wont run you over and thats how u get better... p.s. wiping is 3 to 1 i believe which means if your playing and u wipe... they take 3 more w/ u

[orange ion dude]

first time i got to play speedball it was me against 7 people.... lets just say it gave me a bad first impression of speedball. not trying to get you down about speedball just saying what has happened to me.

[TheRun&GunGuy]

first time i got to play speedball it was me against 7 people.... lets just say it gave me a bad first impression of speedball. not trying to get you down about speedball just saying what has happened to me.
Where were you playing that they would let this happen or did everyone get hit and you were the last person left?

[orange ion dude]

it was at pshyco paintball and everyone got shot out of their bunker and since it was my fisrt time i was to scared to look around......

[Mikesac]

haha first experinces sometimes hurt ur way of thinking speedball is fun... unless u enjoy getting p0wned

[orange ion dude]

that is why i don't play speedball as much as i used to

[Mikesac]

well once u get experienced with speedball ull ge tto love it..

in my opinion its better than rec ball game's

[orange ion dude]

i wonder if we anwsered the dude that started the treads question

[DeceasedVitality]

I don't like Phsyco Paintball for the simple reason that they don't have refs. My brother was doing a 2v2 with some regular player on his team and a guy from Organized Confusion and a kid that was still learning the ropes. My brother had been smashing heads with the guy all day. My brother ran to Center X off break. He had a few snap shots with him and Zach cyclopsed him. He then wiped the hit and ran up and bunkered my brother. My brother still shot him before he got to him and he still went and bunkered him and then my brothers other player.

EDIT: for the record guys, play with people that are going to stomp you in the ground after you learn the basics. If you do that, you'll learn much quicker and much faster. Your skills will be more hardened and you'll notice an improvement after two-three weekends. A large improvement. Getting shot is somewhat good. Behind each of those shots is an explanation of why you got shot.

[Mikesac]

i dotn see y pshyco should help pbc with the speedball field.. help not control

[orange ion dude]

yeah and everything at psycho is really expencive and their chrono range is just in the middle of the watching area. once I was just watching a game and some guy saw me and just started shooting away and the paintballs where hitting right next to me.

[himself68]

I don't like Phsyco Paintball for the simple reason that they don't have refs. My brother was doing a 2v2 with some regular player on his team and a guy from Organized Confusion and a kid that was still learning the ropes. My brother had been smashing heads with the guy all day. My brother ran to Center X off break. He had a few snap shots with him and Zach cyclopsed him. He then wiped the hit and ran up and bunkered my brother. My brother still shot him before he got to him and he still went and bunkered him and then my brothers other player.

players like thatt r at pc and everywhere else...life sux keep your mouth shut and take it like a man

[Mikesac]

paintball isnt always fair btw

[DeceasedVitality]

players like thatt r at pc and everywhere else...life sux keep your mouth shut and take it like a man

I'm not complaining. Just stating why I don't like Psycho paintball is all. No need to get high and mighty.

And I stated I didn't like it because there was no refs. If they do it and get away with it at PC then congrats. Atleast if they get caught they get banned. At Psycho, there's nobody on the field to help or enforce any kind of rules.

[Mikesac]

i kno im just statign a fact :yes4lo:

[KTOninjaSNIPER]

players like thatt r at pc and everywhere else...life sux keep your mouth shut and take it like a man

says the guy that gets on here after every day hes pwned at recball accusing every1 and their mothers of cheating against him...

[simple_condolences]

i wonder if we anwsered the dude that started the treads question

I'd hope I did...

Yes... I've had quite a few 'experiences' at Psycho. Most of which were bad ones. When you can go out there and literally shoot someone seven or eight times in the face and their mask comes out cleaner than before, theres a problem. I paid him back later on. Four to the back of the head and a few more in the back. That one player crawled off the field... he got a few mroe in the chest and neck off the break the next game. After that, I packed up and went home.


EDIT: I say we get a few pumpers to go from Paintball Charleston for a day and show those kiddies how to play... pump style.

[Bermy]

I'd hope I did...

Yes... I've had quite a few 'experiences' at Psycho. Most of which were bad ones. When you can go out there and literally shoot someone seven or eight times in the face and their mask comes out cleaner than before, theres a problem. I paid him back later on. Four to the back of the head and a few more in the back. That one player crawled off the field... he got a few mroe in the chest and neck off the break the next game. After that, I packed up and went home.


EDIT: I say we get a few pumpers to go from Paintball Charleston for a day and show those kiddies how to play... pump style.
Just FYI, they award the same penalty for gross overshooting as they do for wiping. Technically, what you did was just as bad as what the guy up shot up did. I hate paintball vigilantes.

[DM5KILLA]

Just FYI ... I hate paintball vigilantes.

HA! paintball sometimes lends itself to that kind of behavior though... adrenaline, testosterone, and loaded weapons...



but about the thread... please do NOT learn how to play speedball (or paintball) from the internet, also, when you come out to play ask for help or advice, dont think you are Ollie Lang or some other equally as arrogant pro player, tell people that you are a first timer and get techniques and strategies and moves and, have fun, LATER! if you want to see how a certain dive looks and its advantages or disadvantages or something like that THEN check youtube or pbnation for some vids of that particular aspect

[coldshoulderSB]

psycho isnt a bad place to play as long as mulky does not show up - i play there fairly often, its the only place to play speedball around here atm without an hour drive. Jims daughter and another guy have been reffing more lately - ive stopped helping out there except for the occasional tank fill or something like that due to the fact that i dont get any kind of discount/compansation for the work i do/did, but to the twins response. No its not the best place to play but hey its speedball for now and Mulky might show up once a month other than that ive played with lots of the PC guys out there at times

[DM5KILLA]

what you dont want to get recruited for O.C.?

[TATLORTHETANK]

Yep

[TATLORTHETANK]

You Said Everything About Speedball

[simple_condolences]

psycho isnt a bad place to play as long as mulky does not show up - i play there fairly often, its the only place to play speedball around here atm without an hour drive. Jims daughter and another guy have been reffing more lately - ive stopped helping out there except for the occasional tank fill or something like that due to the fact that i dont get any kind of discount/compansation for the work i do/did, but to the twins response. No its not the best place to play but hey its speedball for now and Mulky might show up once a month other than that ive played with lots of the PC guys out there at times
You're quite right. Psycho isn't a bad place to play. Really, its great s long as the Organized Confusion guys don't show up. Playing with guys like you and a few of the others was great. It was two oft eh guys on O.C. that gave me all my problems.

I'm sorry for any of the misconceptions that my post may have given.



Just FYI, they award the same penalty for gross overshooting as they do for wiping. Technically, what you did was just as bad as what the guy up shot up did. I hate paintball vigilantes.
I know they do. Then again, this wasn't a tournament. I play fair in tourneys and rec ball. I don't wipe when i get mad though i do get trigger happy. I won't bonus ball you as you're walking off but if i get around behind you I'll make you bleed. I'm not proud of doing things like that but if someone is going to keep cheating then they need to get whats heading their way.

[Bermy]

You're quite right. Psycho isn't a bad place to play. Really, its great s long as the Organized Confusion guys don't show up. Playing with guys like you and a few of the others was great. It was two oft eh guys on O.C. that gave me all my problems.

I'm sorry for any of the misconceptions that my post may have given.




I know they do. Then again, this wasn't a tournament. I play fair in tourneys and rec ball. I don't wipe when i get mad though i do get trigger happy. I won't bonus ball you as you're walking off but if i get around behind you I'll make you bleed. I'm not proud of doing things like that but if someone is going to keep cheating then they need to get whats heading their way.

Karma's a 'B man. If you think physically destroying the first couple layers of someone's skin because you THOUGHT they may have wiped a hit on you, be prepared to have it happen to you also. Like I said before, malicious overshooting draws the same penalty as wiping (not "whiping", kids), and I see people claim someone wiped on them every time I play. If every a-hole out there throws a few extra on the back of someone's head because they assume they are so damn awesome at paintball that every time they shoot at somebody and they don't get out they MUST be wiping, we'll be seeing a lot more concussions in this sport. My point is, this is such a fast paced sport that you really can't ever be sure that the opposing player is out. God help you if you ever try and make me or one of GLK boys "bleed" because you think we wiped against you, even if we did or didn't. Learn your role as a player and guest on the field, not a judgement dealer. I f-ing hate vigilantes.

[jojo750]

we dont need more of this in the sport:

http://www.pbjunkie.com/gallery/data/500/thumbs/DSC_0154.jpg (http://www.pbjunkie.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/58593)

[DeceasedVitality]

Ow. For the record guys, it wasn't Paul Mulkey or Paul Jr.. I don't have any reason to not like them.

[bluemidget123]

God help you if you ever try and make me or one of the GLK boys "bleed" because you think we wiped against you, even if we did or didn't.

fixed

[DeceasedVitality]

what you dont want to get recruited for O.C.?

They aren't playing anymore. My brother and I were supposed to play with Paul Jr. for 3-mans last season but they began ignoring our calls and such.

[Bermy]

Fixed original post also.

[himself68]

says the guy that gets on here after every day hes pwned at recball accusing every1 and their mothers of cheating against him...

I BET CASEY I COMPLAIN A LOOOOOOOOOOOOT ABOUT CHEATING... its apart of the game and i bet i get pwned A LOT right? keep ur trash talk to yourself b/c the point is that you are an instigator just looking for something, I cant even recall when i ever called out ANYONE for cheating at pc so if i cant then u do it for me....
btw im not getting high and mighty im just stating the fact that players like that r everywhere no big deal

[coldshoulderSB]

the mulkies (OC) etc are playing a 10 man scenario tourney type thing in georgia

[Skeeter]

...I COMPLAIN A LOOOOOOOOOOOOT ABOUT CHEATING... its apart of the game and...

That all depends on where you play. We don't allow it. If we catch someone cheating, they get booted. Simple. It may happen, from time to time, but most of our players know the penalty, therefore, don't take the risk. Cheating SHOULD NEVER be "just part" of the game. No field should allow it, but most do. That is one of the worst aspects of the sport. As more fields allow cheating, the honest players will leave the sport. I truly believe that there are far more honest players than cheaters, so we want to keep the honest players at our field, for many reasons.

...I cant even recall when i ever called out ANYONE for cheating at pc so if i cant then u do it for me....
btw im not getting high and mighty im just stating the fact that players like that r everywhere no big deal

They should not be an accepted aspect of the sport. At any venue, under any format.

[Imnotmexican]

No field should allow it, but most do. That is one of the worst aspects of the sport.

i dont think any field allows it...at least not any ive played at

[simple_condolences]

Karma's a 'B man. If you think physically destroying the first couple layers of someone's skin because you THOUGHT they may have wiped a hit on you, be prepared to have it happen to you also. Like I said before, malicious overshooting draws the same penalty as wiping (not "whiping", kids), and I see people claim someone wiped on them every time I play. If every a-hole out there throws a few extra on the back of someone's head because they assume they are so damn awesome at paintball that every time they shoot at somebody and they don't get out they MUST be wiping, we'll be seeing a lot more concussions in this sport. My point is, this is such a fast paced sport that you really can't ever be sure that the opposing player is out. God help you if you ever try and make me or one of GLK boys "bleed" because you think we wiped against you, even if we did or didn't. Learn your role as a player and guest on the field, not a judgement dealer. I f-ing hate vigilantes.

I'm not assuming. I know when I've hit him. For starters, we are only about fifteen-twenty feet away to begin with and my brother was sitting on the sidelines during this particular game watching.

I'm not like that usually. Very very rarely actually. I'm a bit hot headed at times but i have to be pushed to that point. It doesn't just happen. Typically, when some one shoots me out, if I can find them I'll tell them nice work or generally congratulate them. I'm not trying to venerate myself and seem godly. I'm not amazing but I'm not horrible. I'm just like everyone else who plays the sport.

I don't judge others. I didn't judge him, I just told him physically to stop wiping and play fair. Apparently asking him to get out if he's shot isn't enough. I had to resort to that and once more, I'm not proud of it.

Well, assuming the GLK boys don't wipe and cheat, I wouldn't need to. Now leaving the possibility open that they do, thats your fault. As far as I know, GLK plays like their supposed to.

[orange ion dude]

well what about if a reff is playing and wipes?

[DM5KILLA]

^^ not that that would ever happen, BUT potentially the same consequence, an off-duty ref is a player just the same as you...

[orange ion dude]

well i saw him wiping but oh well i guess...

[bluemidget123]

If you see a ref playing and wipe, you tell the head ref and he will deal with it accordingly.

[orange ion dude]

what if it was the head reff....

[glkbigbk]

what if it was the head reff....

head ref's are head ref's for a reason, they arent going to wipe a hit

[orange ion dude]

Oh well I guess I just saw his hand cleaning off a hit on his thigh and keep playing, oh well it doesn't matter now.

[glkbigbk]

well if your certain you saw something and cant bring it to the head ref, tell the owners

[orange ion dude]

Oh well it never hurt anybody so I guess I will just let it be.

[DeceasedVitality]

I'm not assuming. I know when I've hit him. For starters, we are only about fifteen-twenty feet away to begin with and my brother was sitting on the sidelines during this particular game watching.

I'm not like that usually. Very very rarely actually. I'm a bit hot headed at times but i have to be pushed to that point. It doesn't just happen. Typically, when some one shoots me out, if I can find them I'll tell them nice work or generally congratulate them. I'm not trying to venerate myself and seem godly. I'm not amazing but I'm not horrible. I'm just like everyone else who plays the sport.

I don't judge others. I didn't judge him, I just told him physically to stop wiping and play fair. Apparently asking him to get out if he's shot isn't enough. I had to resort to that and once more, I'm not proud of it.

Well, assuming the GLK boys don't wipe and cheat, I wouldn't need to. Now leaving the possibility open that they do, thats your fault. As far as I know, GLK plays like their supposed to.

Yeah, just for the record, he turned around and showed me and two other guys. He made a joke of wiping it like it was a normal day thing for him.

[Skeeter]

Yeah, just for the record, he turned around and showed me and two other guys. He made a joke of wiping it like it was a normal day thing for him.

Then bring it to me or Brain. We can't fix it if we don't know its broken. We are the only two people on the planet that are immune from getting banned. ANY ref, and I do mean ANY, will get banned from the field for wiping. It needs to be witnessed by one of us, or a reff on staff, but if they see it, and make the call, we will stand behind them. We have banned refs from the field before, for just playing on, a few times. No big deal. Their loss. Brain and I will never put up with anyone trying to abuse the rules, especially someone that knows better.

Send me a PM describing the incident, or just talk to me about it on Saturday...

[DeceasedVitality]

Then bring it to me or Brain. We can't fix it if we don't know its broken. We are the only two people on the planet that are immune from getting banned. ANY ref, and I do mean ANY, will get banned from the field for wiping. It needs to be witnessed by one of us, or a reff on staff, but if they see it, and make the call, we will stand behind them. We have banned refs from the field before, for just playing on, a few times. No big deal. Their loss. Brain and I will never put up with anyone trying to abuse the rules, especially someone that knows better.

Send me a PM describing the incident, or just talk to me about it on Saturday...

No, I wasn't talking about Paintball Charleston. If I catch some cheating, I go to the head ref immediately.

[bluemidget123]

nevermind.

[KTOninjaSNIPER]

he was talking to the orange ion kid

he quoted vitality

[bluemidget123]

he quoted vitality

just caught that.

[DeceasedVitality]

Oh. My bad.

[TATLORTHETANK]

you gotta have a team to play speedball right?

[orange ion dude]

You don't have to but it would come in handy.

[TATLORTHETANK]

thanks lol

[Huoliuhi]

just my two centsbump

[modgun123]

if you talk to a ref he(or she to be politacly correct)will probly give you a quik rundown of the basics and alert everyone that your new.

[bluemidget123]

this thread is about 8 months old. stop reviving old threads.

[modgun123]

whoa man chill jeez

[bunkermonkey376]

please stop, I keep thinking that there is an actual conversation going on